THE BIRTH OF IGNORANCE
(demo) (90)

scott lewis - vocals - drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar


birth of ignorance
anit-homophobe
consumer mentality
stench of profit



     around 1990,
the birth of ignorance demo evolved from danny's bedroom. these crude recordings were crucial steps in the marring of the old school thrash sound with the developing grind scene... i think glen evans produced the tape... a totally raw three-piece recording before i joined the band. incidentally, my first gig with the band was at one of those milwaukee metal fests... also comedic, my first bill for destruction.... i believe the first tab was a monitor screen... that or a mic... any rate, the 4-song demo was enough to let danny out of his combat / nuclear assault deal... free to embrace the clutches of pure evil in years to come... it started off innocently enough with danny and original drummer scott lewis handling the vocals. if anyone can remember scott playing and singing... the tempo got too intense to keep up, and it became obvious they would need someone else to sing... that became me after some weird demo project that dan and i did in his house, eventually coining the term smoke, grind and sleep... pure comedy considering the recorder is remembered more than the band or titles... neither of us can remember the name of the project, but the tape had 4 songs that eventually had riffs and beats ending up on the extreme conditions demand extreme responses record... another note, we did a bloodhound tape around then that consisted of grind and a dogs barking, eventually becoming brutal truth songs as well... insert "gap in time" code


LIBERATED RECORDS BOOT
(91)

scott lewis - vocals - drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar

    ...i believe before our first 7" came out, we were bootlegged... profane existence had something do with it - can't really remember... but the quality is raw with the a - side being "the birth of ignorance and b- side "anti-homophobe"... leaving "consumer mentality" (unreleased) and "stench of profit" to gain tempo. these were good times... we had no gear, would drive up to gigs in beat up cars and burn our way around the north east... the best... everybody knew everybody... the early rhode island fests with jim phlegm... cbgb's... abc no rio... or squat shit with scott's other band winter, exit 13, apocalypse... thurston moore, john zorn... Incantation, human remains, destroy, nausea... all the same...
     any rate, i guess it was here that collectors were introduced and a shit ton of releases followed... we kicked it around, bumming and slumming, eventually touring our way to the promised land... milwaukee metal fest... again, with pungent stench and incantation


ILL NEGLECT ep earache records (92) 

scott lewis - vocals - drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals
 
 ill neglect
the shaw sleeps in lee harvey's grave
here nothing for you
pre-natal homeland
ac/bt


     recorded by colin richardson and garris shipon, ill-neglect brought a cleaner sound to the recording, but maintained it's punk ethics through kinko's - score, fold and stuff a patch method... i screened each one with this shitty screen from pearl paints... we did this ourselves, riding around in a van with cathedral on the campaign for music destruction tour - i think it was 92. it was the salad days... we made $50 a night and played to upwards of 3600 in la on that tour... sweet suck-cess... we played, didn't bathe, sat in shit for 3 months, folding 7 inch record sleeves, stuffing patches and watching carcass sell shirts...

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ill neglect patch

EXTREME CONDITIONS DEMAND EXTREME RESPONSES full length
earache records (92)

gurn - guitar
scott lewis - drums  
kevin sharp - vocals
dan lilker - bass - vocals


birth of ignorance
stench of profit
ill-neglect
denial of existence
regression/progression
collateral damage
time
walking corpse
monetary gain
wilt
h.o.p.e.
blockhead
anti-homophobe
unjust compromise

     recorded again by colin richardson and garris shipon, extreme conditions... redefined the genre, however in typical record label fashion, our record came out many months after the campaign tour. as a sleeper release; morbid angel, carcass and napalm had some big records that year... and like everything at that time, was real different... like every breath of air in anything new genre, vultures swarmed... hungry for a taste of whatever the underground produced... we were ripe kill for a developing touring market in europe... the taste was sweet and everybody was hungry... we did a tour with what was to be a cross-genre thing; us, larceny and fear factory, but larceny backed out... We had done a split with larceny... knew fear factory through the channels and it seemed like a good time... the press was rolling in it's own fodder and developing a cult classic. earache was the toast and we were the sex toy of the genre... if you are going to track this one down, try searching the release on toys factory... it has the "perpetual conversion" ep, ill neglect seven inch and a ton of sob shit we did on tour in japan... we also toured canada, the states and europe... and progressive went broke.


PERPETUAL CONVERSION ep earache records (93)

gurn - guitar
scott lewis - drums 
kevin sharp - vocals
dan lilker - bass - vocals

perpetual conversion
perpetual larceny
walking corpse
lord of this world
bed sheet

      recorded by colin richardson and garris shipon, perpetual conversion was a mix of tone... it was all over the shop and gave us room to move around after such an identifiable release... black sabbath, the electronic assault of bed sheet and techno meld of the the larceny remix... i'm not sure the press understood what was going on, but it made sense to us... at any rate, we were on the hit list of hate... then fear factory became techno and were genius... hummmmm.... we rolled back to the states and brought out the boredom's from japan... headlining was the pain teens... you look back in time and remember certain shows more than others... this was a hell of a tour... everyone from rollins, to thirwell, to ian mackaye came out... we went to the grand canyon, broke down in the redwoods. saw some incredible bordoms gigs... let's say it was a good time...

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larceny split


GODPLAYER ep
earache records (94)


gurn - guitar
rich hoak - drums  
kevin sharp - vocals
dan lilker - bass - vocals

godplayer
wish you were here... now go away

...around the time we finished touring for perpetual conversion, scott dropped out... touring didn't really agree with him... we knew that scott was unusual, so we looked at drummers that had nothing to do with scott's style. i met rich through the guys in buzzoven, he was playing with mike dean in a band called ninefinger... we were at abc no rio drinking malt liquor and decided to see if it would work... he played this absurd marching snare and this ride that shaved points off my hearing, but somehow it sounded right to us... enter philly... this track really opened up the sound... I met buzz osbourne after he watched this on tv... we recorded on each others and splits, eventually doing the venomous concept together... there was a heavy japanese thing going on, and we pushed it with andy haas... having done the knitting factory thing with him, i new he could differentiate the feel of the track... bizarre... the b-side was a pink floyd track soaked in embalming fluid.... we played with enslaved, god head silo, murphy's law... krs 1, joey ramone... new york was good like that... you could play with anyone... any club. it was interesting times and we were high... real high.... we recorded the record ourselves and colin mixed it at phil collins studio in liverpool... not funny.

NEED TO CONTROL full length earache records (92)

gurn- guitar
rich hoak - drums
kevin sharp - vocals
dan lilker - bass - vocals

collapse
black door mine
turn face
godplayer
i see red
ironlung
bite the hand
ordinary madness
media blitz
judgment
brain trust
choice of a new generation
mainliner
displacement
crawlspace

   
   this record was a work of art - and i mean that figuratively... earache had spread itself in corporate oil, signing to columbia and milking the aspirations of greatness... we were recording ntc and planning a tour with pungent and macabre... they were wanting to make nice with their new lover, columbia records, and pushed us out of our studio for some tax write-off singer songwriter... we conceded under the promise that they would find us a comparable studio... we ended up in the r&b studio with c&c music factory working next door... it cost twice as much as the studio we were end and if you know anything about studios, guitars are non-existent in r&b... oh yeah by now they decided that their schedule was too busy to get our record out before the tour, so they asked us to record an ep... like these songs drop from the heavens like rain from clouds... all of this was scrapped anyway... we let the label know there was no chance of mixing in this studio and like i said before, ended up in phil collins studio in liverpool after the tour with pungent and macabre... not very grindcore, huh... one other interesting note... our label lost the artwork while we were on tour, forcing us to shoot photos and layout the record again... we had meetings booked with them after the tour to discuss how we could help pull their head out of their ass... only mitch unseen terror showed up for work the 2 days we were in nottingham... one guy actually called in work sick for 2 days with a back ache... mitch was nice enough to take us out for pizza... dig was nice enough to charge us for it... lesson learned, yet all the finger fucking aside, we managed to come up with an interesting record... they were so inept at this time, when we sent them our option notice via registered mail, they never bothered opening until we called them after the option expire... free at last... one other fantastically funny thing about the record... because they were so lazy wiring us the money instead of the studio... we paid for it out of our account... sad for them, as they actually had to pay us money they owed us before we would give them ntc... needless to say our last statement was somewhere in the mid-ninties... so yeah... feel free to snag as many copies of the earache records... one other note... eggshells came out a little dodgy so we released that one on the no idea comp - bread the inedible napkin... i believe earache re-released it on something...

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5.6,7,8,9 inch vinyl box set - bread - the edible comp

MACHINE PARTS ep
def american (95)

gurn - guitar
rich hoak - drums  
kevin sharp - vocals
dan lilker - bass - vocals

spare change
machine parts
collateral damage
fucktoy
kill trend suicide

     by now, we pretty much dropped completely out; touring, writing and recording constantly... we recorded a ton of stuff that we were mapping out for comps, splits, ep's and lp's.... summer heat produced this one on the ever brutal smoke, grind and sleep 8-track... I thought it was sort of a cool way to show the writing process, from it's initial thought in some shithole in the sky to a finished release... this ep has gone through maybe 6 pressings and at current can be picked up through bones brigade... i think they also have some shirts as well...

KILL TREND SUICIDE ep relapse records (96)

gurn - guitar
rich hoak - drums
kevin sharp - vocals
dan lilker - bass - vocals

pass some down
let's go to war
hypocrite invasion
everflow
homesick
humanity's folly
i killed my family
kill trend suicide

      I remember recording this one on my lunch break... we were using this studio that was sort of half put together. i think billy anderson recorded this. we might of spent 4 or 5 days doing this record and things were shutting off all the time. so in between losing moments in time, we finally nailed an odd one. i think this is one of my favorite records - and it probably comes from the conditions... total state of decline... it's raw and the tracks were just structured differently...we hit the road and records followed. we recorded some stuff in japan - a bunch of sob tunes - maybe the mdc born to die tune. they were on the toys factory release. We toured for what seemed like a lifetime on that one... cannibal corpse, deicide, cathedral, only living witness... it didn't matter... i've always enjoyed playing with all kinds of bands... it's always interesting meeting new unusual people... makes me feel more normal... 
    
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SPAZZ split ep rhetoric (96)

pork farm
rumurs (die kreuzen)
foolish bastard
smoke, grind & sleep

rich hoak- drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals

           by now, brutal was gigging across the board - anywhere - with anyone. the constant rubbing of different bands, developed an ever-changing mentality through the band... nothing was too sacred. chris dodge was an old friend from back in the day when mrr was less jaded and close minded... any rate, spazz is retarded crazy power violence band... the die kreuzen track is mental... this was a fairly productive and inspiring time for brutal truth... all these bands were expanding the limits in extreme music... this release had a fairly obnoxious amount of pressings in various colors collected in a classic box set...

NOTHING QUIET ON THE EASTERN FRONT reservoir records (97)

rich hoak- drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals

postulate then liberate

    ...this is a monster comp... the best of the game at that point in time... drop dead, black army jacket, disassociate... we would play all over the place with these bands, this squat - that space... it was a pretty cool time to be around music.... everything was banging and melding... trading 7 inch records, malt liquor, and laughing our ass off... that said, we also played with bands like godheadsilo, solient green, acid bath, today is the day... brutal truth had the weird ability to be on any gig... we were like chameleons, and I was not bored...

KILL YOUR IDOLS
happy hamster records (98)
agothocles tribute


rich hoak- drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals

hippy cult

     recorded by billy anderson, agothocles hippie cult allowed us to poke fun at ourselves... not too serious... recently, brutal truth recorded a rehearsal split at a garage gig in belgium just before playing to thousands at france's hellfest and the belgium grasspop. hopefully looking for a cassette only release sometime next year...

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SPAZZ split box set


MELVINS split

CONVERGE split ep
hydra head (97)


rich hoak- drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals


cornucopia (black sabbath)

     ...recorded by billy anderson during the sounds of the animal kingdom recording... this was a part of a series hydra head did of extreme bands covering sabbath... classic. We also covered zodiac by the melvin's and did a split with them... i was younger, more reckless and outlaw than I've ever been... would not have made my mother proud, but such is stupidity... this was an intensely busy time for the band, with touring constantly, recording and releasing things all over the place... So the timeline may not be record collector nerd correct, but it gives you an idea...
i loved collecting 7" records, still do... and it seems vinyl is making its return

VIOLENT SOCIETY split ep
relapse records(99)
mdc tribute

born to die (mdc)

rich hoak - drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals

     recorded by billy anderson during the sounds of the animal kingdom period, born to die was a kick back to my younger days, punk a disorderly... The speed and anger of this record matched by few... It's a classic and I hope we didn't step too hard on it... I believe this track and the sabbath track are going to be re-issued so, if you don't have these two 7" records or if you are a record collecting asshole... look for this to be released through relapse... also, we released a split somewhere around the sounds... period with australia's most unwanted rupture... a dual release from rich's deaf american and rhetoric, this release had some smoke, grind and sleep recordings and live stuff from japan with totsuan sob... and the rupture side is non stop crazy people shit... so if you can - get it... however, you may see a re--ish somewhere...

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slayer tribute

rupture split

SOUNDS OF THE ANIMAL KINGDOM full length relapse records (97)

dementia
k.a.p.
vision
fucktoy
jemenez cricket
soft mind
average people
blue world
callous
fisting
die laughing
dead smart
sympathy kiss
pork farm
promise
foolish bastard
postulate then liberate
it's after the end of the world (sun-ra)
machine parts
4:20
unbaptized
prey
bonus
no sleep
hippie cult
cybergod
cornucopia
 
 
   ...by the time we got into recording sounds of the animal kingdom, brutal truth had sort established itself with ugly and unwanted... the definition of grindcore had broadened, and brutal truth was a part of that. again, everything was stripped down from art, to arrangements and tone. another metamorphosis occurred with a clean cut image and crust in the tub sound. ever simplifying the fan base... many bands played in many situations with unlikely combinations... we played a gig with neurosis, eyehategod and the unsane. the toys factory release had an agothocles and sabbath cover, a nausea NY track and an unreleased... we also did a video for deadsmart in japan... yes and hit the road again... by the time we got to new zealand - we sort of imploded... we had gone this direction and taken it to it's ultimate extreme... so we ran out of gas, pulled over and told each other to fuck off...

GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD full length relapse records (99)





rich hoak - drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
gurn - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals

  ... with tracks scattered all over the place, relapse pulled together a collection rarities, a live recording down under and we said goodnight... of note, the bordom tracks - I believe were the last stuff we recorded with scott, the melvin's split, tons of bonus only stuff, odd noises with some drunken memories... for collectors only...
but still an entertaining collection of fuck offs...

  intro
dementia
K.A.P.
choice of a new generation
birth of ignorance
stench of profit
walking corpse
sympathy kiss
pork farm
jemenez cricket
repeat at length

media blitz
fucktoy
ill-neglect
kill trend suicide
cornucopia
godplayer
i killed my family
time
denial of existence
hippie cult
callous
zodiac
no sleep
hippie cult
cybergod
cornucopia
born to die
spare change
machine parts
collateral damage
fucktoy
kill trend suicide
bubblebop shop
boredom's cover #2
telly (with bucky)
blind leading the blind
pass some down
vision
fisting
die laughing
let's go to war
zombie
homesick
everflow
dead smart
soft mind
dethroned emperor
it's after the end of the world (sun-ra)
callous
average people
black door mine
promise
foolish bastard
bite the hand
collateral damage
let's go to war

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for drug crazed grindfreaks only deaf american picture disc

TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION split ep (eyehategod) emetic records (06)

gurn - guitar
rich hoak - drums  
kevin sharp - vocals
dan lilker - bass - vocals

sisterfucker 1 & 2

    we got back together and recorded this song to help out with the eyehategod hurricane relief thing... it sounded pretty good, and was the last recording we did with gurn... to answer the obvious question, gurn seemed uninterested in moving forward with it... but we did... and we organized a show to see if there were any unanswered questions... fair enough, grind was had... a friend of dan's, jody from kalibas, slipped in and did a fantastic job. we played chicago and montreal with him, but due to some skids on his criminal record, we opted to enlist erik of sulaco, kalibas and a bunch of other bands... he had jammed with dan in nuclear assault... he's a funny guy and pretty much shreds... In terms of tone, compatibility and ability... the best guitar player i ever worked with...


NARCOSIS - TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION (95) calculated risk records

rich hoak - drums
dan lilker - vocals - bass
jody - guitar
kevin sharp - vocals

everflow
sympathy kiss

    ...we recorded this live in montreal at a brave words and bloody knuckles festival... It's raw, ugly and features the only recording with jody. after this gig, erik slipped in for the english tour with narcosis, followed by festivals and japan... and you get the picture... recording and the road... so it's all in the family and the degrees of separation ain' t that far off from bands across the board in extreme music... - we've dusted old hunting grounds in japan, europe and the states, breaking in new songs, fleshing out a new direction... a taste of it just recently came out on the scott hull/relapse compilation - this comp kills fascists - vol 1... 4 new cuts of spastic tempos and arrangements that sound both acidic and solid. the gears are turning and evolution through revolution is written and ready to be recorded... it is worth the wait and you won't be disappointed...

GRINDCORE - FOR THE UGLY AND UNWANTED



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